Comments on: Vim vs. Emacs (scripting) http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:07:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Brian http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11794 Brian Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:00:07 +0000 http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11794 I'm actually almost enjoying Emacs now. (almost) I have looked at Weblocks, but it seems a bit young and yes, highly confusing. And probably overkill for my needs I will look into flymake, thanks. I agree Emacs' autocompletion is very nice and Vim's isn't so much. I've never found any use for Vim's. I'm actually almost enjoying Emacs now. (almost)

I have looked at Weblocks, but it seems a bit young and yes, highly confusing. And probably overkill for my needs

I will look into flymake, thanks. I agree Emacs' autocompletion is very nice and Vim's isn't so much. I've never found any use for Vim's.

]]> By: Ivar Refsdal http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11763 Ivar Refsdal Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:59:57 +0000 http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11763 How is the Emacs struggle? ;) "For many things that Vim has built-in or bundled-in, Emacs requires you to go on a treasure hunt." Well, I do like Emacs' (Slime's really) fuzzy autocompletion better than Vim's omnicompletion. Same goes for the bookmarking utility (not found in Vim). (Read the manual -> Bookmarks) I also like the the tramp (/user@host:/some/file/here) far better than Vim's (keeps asking for a password over and over again..) scp:// Emacs also has flymake, http://flymake.sourceforge.net/, you might want to have a go with that instead of line numbers for compiler/syntax stuff? Slime has slime-next-note for going to the next compiler error note. M-n and M-p (previous) is the default keybinding I think. Feel free to correct me if you know any better than the above. And I do CERTAINLY agree Emacs could have more sensible defaults. Like the buffer switching you were talking about. For web stuff and lisp, I'm trying to learn weblocks: http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-weblocks/ Have you tried it? It looks very good, although it has been a bit confusing. Cheers How is the Emacs struggle? ;)

“For many things that Vim has built-in or bundled-in, Emacs requires you to go on a treasure hunt.”

Well, I do like Emacs' (Slime's really) fuzzy autocompletion better than Vim's omnicompletion.
Same goes for the bookmarking utility (not found in Vim). (Read the manual -> Bookmarks)
I also like the the tramp (/user@host:/some/file/here) far better than Vim's (keeps asking for a password over and over again..) scp://
Emacs also has flymake, http://flymake.sourceforge.net/, you might want to have a go with that instead of line numbers for compiler/syntax stuff?
Slime has slime-next-note for going to the next compiler error note. M-n and M-p (previous) is the default keybinding I think.

Feel free to correct me if you know any better than the above.

And I do CERTAINLY agree Emacs could have more sensible defaults. Like the buffer switching you were talking about.

For web stuff and lisp, I'm trying to learn weblocks: http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-weblocks/
Have you tried it? It looks very good, although it has been a bit confusing.

Cheers

]]> By: Christopher Giroir http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11214 Christopher Giroir Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:40:54 +0000 http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11214 Very true, I've used so many where even though they include ruby and emacs, they don't have the ruby emacs files... seems a total waste. They are right in the ruby distribution ready to be installed! Very true, I've used so many where even though they include ruby and emacs, they don't have the ruby emacs files… seems a total waste. They are right in the ruby distribution ready to be installed!

]]> By: Brian http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11209 Brian Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:55:50 +0000 http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11209 Yeah, it's easy in Gentoo, but I use other OSes too that make you fetch it manually. Yeah, it's easy in Gentoo, but I use other OSes too that make you fetch it manually.

]]> By: Christopher Giroir http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11205 Christopher Giroir Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:47:22 +0000 http://briancarper.net/2008/01/07/vim-vs-emacs-scripting/#comment-11205 You finally hit on why I like emacs :) People like things that do their job well... Emacs often gets bashed for this reason. I disagree. The base of emacs is incredibly simple and powerful and that's the reason it gets expanded upon. I love the fact that I can rebuild the editor in many different ways by defining my own complete custom functions, but anyway! About the ruby mode, I think one reason it's not included is that the official ruby distribution includes an emacs mode that they keep updated. In gentoo isn't it just emerge ruby-mode anyway? You finally hit on why I like emacs :)

People like things that do their job well… Emacs often gets bashed for this reason. I disagree. The base of emacs is incredibly simple and powerful and that's the reason it gets expanded upon. I love the fact that I can rebuild the editor in many different ways by defining my own complete custom functions, but anyway!

About the ruby mode, I think one reason it's not included is that the official ruby distribution includes an emacs mode that they keep updated. In gentoo isn't it just emerge ruby-mode anyway?

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